Cody fern na-na-na-enwe a oge na Hollywood. The Australian actor gained critical attention this summer for his role as David Madson in The Assassination of Gianni Versace: American Crime Story, and this fall he’s on another Ryan Murphy hit as Michael Langdon, the son of Connie Britton and an evil latex gimp monster in the current season of American Horror Story: apocalypse. As of last Friday, viewers can also see Fern in the final season of House of Cards. He’s everywhere! But let’s focus on the truly important questions: What did this horror-meister do for Halloween, and what does he love about playing the Antichrist? Mostly the wigs, it turns out.
What did you do for Halloween?
I’ve never been to the parade in L.A. before — it’s always been an unfortunate series of events, like last year I had food poisoning. This year I was incredibly tired and I was like, “No, now is not the right time for that. I just finished Horror Story, and I’m emotionally drained and I can’t go.” But as soon as friend asked if I wanted to go, I said, “Let’s put on a mask and do it.” So I walked around West Hollywood with some friends and beheld the spectacle before me. It was cool and overwhelming and too many people. I’m not used to Halloween. We don’t care about it in Australia.
What was your mask?
Do you remember Mortal Kombat? I went as Scorpion. I just walked around in disguise. There were a lot of people like, “You’re Cody Fern.” It’s so weird to hear people to say my name, especially my first followed by last, just based off of seeing my eyes.
Mgbe American Horror Story, bụ egwu kwa spooky maka ị?
Oh dịghị, Na-amasị m psychosocial egwu fim. Otu ọkacha mmasị m na fim na-Ka Right Otu Na. M na mgbe a na-akwado nke Horror Story na Ryan ọrụ. M ga-esi Ujo mfe. Ọ bụ n'ezie na-akpali akpali, ma ọ bụrụ na ihe ọ bụla.
Olee otú ị na-ejedebe na ọrụ nke Michael?
Ryan jụrụ m n'ọfịs ya na njedebe nke Versace na-enye m ọrụ. Ọ bụ a karịsịa na-agbalị oge - m bụ nnọọ anya ime House of Cards na anyị na-ama na usoro nke filming na a bọmbụ nuklia wee gaa Ryan nnọọ obiọma kwuru, "Ihe ị chọrọ ugbu a bụ na-eme ihe na pụrụ iche ndị inyom." All nke m ga-achọ ịdị ka onye na-ese mgbe nile inyom eme ihe nkiri. Mgbe o kwuru,, "Achọrọ m ka ị na-eme Horror Story. Ị ga-abụghị Sarah Paulson na Kathy Bates,"Anya mmiri gbara m. O kwuru, sị m agwa ogologo ntutu na mmekọrita maka capes na nke ahụ bụ ihe niile m kwesịrị ịma.
Nke bụ mma, na wigs ma ọ bụ ndị capes?
Ma n'ezie fun na-egwu gburugburu na. Ị na-etinye wig na na akwa na na a ọtụtụ ọrụ a na-eme maka gị. Mgbe ị maara ihe ọ na-aga ele anya dị ka tupu, ọ bụ aka na-akpụ otú ọ na-ejegharị na-ekwu okwu. Ma m n'anya na wig. Ọ bụ a mara mma ihe.
Olee otú obi dị gị mgbe ị chọpụtara na ị ga-egwu na-akpọ nkịtị, n'ezie àmà na-egosi?
Obi tọrọ m ụtọ. Olee otú ọtụtụ ndị mmadụ na-na-egwu, nnoo, Ekwensu? Ọ bụ ihe dị otú ahụ iconic ọrụ. Kama m maara nke mgbali n'ihi na ndị mmadụ a na-eche ya kemgbe oge otu. M na-amaghị na m nọ na-akpọ ya ruo mgbe ụbọchị abụọ tupu m steepụ on set. All nke nkọwa ndị dị n'okpuru eyiri, ka m na-amaghị na ọ bụ Michael Langdon. M na-etinye niile na-emegide Kraịst stof n'uche m na bịara na Michael si a mmadụ n'akuku. Ị nwere ike igwu ya na njem, ị nwere ike igwu na-emegide Kraịst mgbazi, ma àmà na-egosi dị ka a dum dị nnọọ a na akara. Olee otú m nwere na-egwu na? Ọ ka na-ekwu, Ebe a, egwu a Foto Ụlọ Nga.
Gịnị bụ Michael njem na ya echiche nke nzube?
Anyị na-ahụ isi ihe abụọ na nsụgharị nke ya: Anyị na-ahụ ya dị ka mmadụ na-eche nche atọ na ebe ọ na-abịa, na anyị na-ahụ ya dị ka a furu efu nye nwoke instincts na-agakọ ọ pụghị ịghọta na ịchịkwa. Ọ na-arara ya nye onye ọ bụla nọ ya gburugburu, nke calcifies a n'echiche nke mgbu banyere ọnọdụ mmadụ na agabiga ya nso nzube ya ma ọ bụ ihe ya aghọta na nzube bụ. Ọ bụ a nwa okorobịa na-na-eji ndị nọ ya gburugburu. The Satanists iji ya na-emezu ha amụma. He’s used by the warlocks who want to rise up and be more powerful than the witches. He’s a symbol for the witches of all that is evil, but they don’t know him and know his journey. He’s a lost young man who needs help.
I want to say there is a big separation between the character and the actor.
Oh, you don’t say!
Someone said, “How can you see him as a righteous character?” I don’t know what evil is. You tell me what it is. Michael kills people and this, that, and the other, but he’s not leading the country after sexually assaulting dozens of women. He’s not in the higher court in the country. What form of evil is Michael? In Michael’s mind, the evil he is enacting is righteous. He sees the dirty, dark secrets inside a person’s soul because he understands these pains and desires. That’s not him — it’s in the people in the first place. He’s tempting them towards it. I find that interesting, his sense of righteousness. If everyone is going to murder their family members and step over each other to get to the Sanctuary, is that Michael’s fault?
What is the grossest thing they asked you to shoot?
The black mass in episode six, where they rip [a woman’s] heart out and I had to eat it. The girl who played her, I can’t think of her name right now, was so good. She was such a fine actress. She has only a few hours to film, no one knows who she is, and now she’s laying on a table and her heart is being ripped out. It was really disturbing. M na-arọ nrọ mgbe dí ndu na idaha. Iri obi dị mma, ma na-ekiri ya na-aga site na ọ bụ ikike. A nwa agbọghọ na iti mkpu n'ihi hụrụ n'anya ndụ n'ihu gị, na nke ahụ bụ ike.
Nke ahụ bụ ihe ndị kasị fun n'ihi na ị na-egwu?
The kasị fun m nwere, kasị gleeful, niile na-fun bụ na-eche nche Three. Adult Michael bụ nnọọ ụtọ na-egwu - ọ na-dị nnọọ iberibe na ndị mmadụ. Ọ bụ naanị psychological ịta na nke ahụ bụ oké egwu. Ị na-akpọ na na Sarah Paulson ka Venable. Ọ bụ naanị na-akpali akpali.
I kwuru na gị nlereanya mgbe nile actresses. Olee nke bụ nke kpara Horror Story actresses ndị ị kasị ụjọ site?
Ha niile na-eyi egwu na ha ụzọ dị iche iche. M na-eto na-ele Kathy Bates na nhụsianya bụ otu n'ime ndị kasị amasị m na fim. Nke ahụ bụ na-emenye ụjọ. Sarah Paulson na-asụ ụzọ ọhụrụ ụdị eme. Ọ na-eme, ghọrọ usoro, nke mere na bụ na-emenye ụjọ. Mgbe ahụ m na a idaha na Miss Jessica Lange. M ka, oo chimoo, anyị agaba. Francis Conroy bụ na nke a n'ezie jụụ, fọrọ nke nta siri onye ma mgbe ọ emee n'ime Myrtle Snow na ọ bụ nke a ọkụ ọkụ, di ọku, ike amoosu na na-eyi egwu. Ị mma-eweta ya na ndị a ndị mmadụ.
Gịnị bụ American Horror Story nnabata ememe dị ka?
Ụbọchị mbụ m na-agbapụ a itoolu page ajuju idaha na Sarah Paulson. Ọ bụ dị ka, Ebe a bụ gị ejiji. Ebe a bụ gị ntecha. Sinụ n'ebe. Nnabata ememe na ị na-ada ka onu nke a dị n'elu ugwu na ị na-jụrụ na-awụlikwa elu. Na mgbe ị na-awụlikwa elu gị na-enweghị echiche ebe ị na-aga na-ada.
Ha anaghị eme ka ị na-aṅụ ọbara Jessica Lange si n'okpuru ala?
No, ha na-eme ka m na-eme na. Ana m atụ anya! M gaara eme na a obi otiti.
M maara na ị na-apụghị inye ndị na-agwụcha nke a oge, ma ị na-afọ na otú Michael akụkọ nsọtụ?
Ọ na-aga na-a afọ ojuju ogwugwu. Ọ bụ ihe ogwugwu na, M ga-ekwu, nwere ọtụtụ ihe ịtụnanya. Ọ bụ ihe incredibly kpara akpa, ọdachi, gleeful merenụ.